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#1: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: john,

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:18 pm
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We have received a couple of serious emails recently. These relate to "minors" that have registered for this site in order to view pics....

The latest email arrived this morning from a very upset parent and there is also an ongoing email exchange between Annabelle and another distressed parent which will we hope will be resolved shortly.

This brings us to the discussion re subscriptions.

We now firmly believe that in order to protect ourselves and this site, we have to have a cc check and verification system in place in order for us to be certain that those viewing the pictures in this site are over 18.

To that end, we will probably be putting in place a small monthly charge for subscribers who wish to view picture albums. The forum will essentialy remain free but if you wish to view pics or take part in chats and so on, then there will be a small monthly fee of around $5 a month.

What that will also do is enable us to put in place Chat and several other features members have asked for as well as helping us out with hosting costs, etc.

It will also mean an end to censoring of pics that are sexualy explicit.

We will also have in place a picture post count system whereby regular contributors to the picture section will get free access to all the features on this site provided we are satisfied they are over 18 years of age.

I think a small monthly charge makes sense and in reality, I know some people are concerned about giving CC details or simply wont pay towards the upkeep of this site. I firmly believe that apart from the safety it gives us with regards to age verification, it also makes sense for those that wish to use all the features of the site, including pics, chat and we will also look to add a video module, to pay a small monthly fee for those additional extra's.

I will keep you all posted on where we are with this.

cheers

John

#2: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: Fenman, Location: Cambridge UK

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:54 pm
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and you might also give those that deserve it more than 4 stars ... just a small point but we don't often hear from you mate and you've got 6 !!!

#3: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: dime2004,

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:45 pm
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have you been counting pictures already posted or are you only counting pictures posted after today? jus' wondering, since i sure try to do my part to keep the content on the site fresh...

#4: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: pushnpull,

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:13 am
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Hi John

I support the move to a fee. Any chance of an option to pay an "annual fee" as I (and perhaps others) would prefer to have a charge to their credit card appear only once?

Cheers.

#5: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: john,

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:27 am
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thanks for the feedback and support. Yes, we will be able to do an annual fee as well.

For picture posting counts, we will put these in place from when the scheme goes live but will of course also be open to those have contributed regularly to date.

cheers

John

#6: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: pan_tyman, Location: Sussex UK

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:42 pm
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That's a shame, I will not be taking up the 'offer' but recognise the inevitability of this. Please advise how I "unsubscribe" ........

#7: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: Fenman, Location: Cambridge UK

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:06 pm
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To Pantyman

Why is it important to unsubscribe? Just don't go on the site (you are obviously trying to attract attention to yourself)

#8: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: lookin2452,

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:01 pm
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if you do this i will be leaving your site .... tell those parents its not your job to watch their kids, it's the parents

sorry

#9: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: Fenman, Location: Cambridge UK

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:00 pm
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Let's be honest about this .... modern parents leave a lot to be desired in the way they care for their kids - that's why these moves are sensible ones.

#10: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: lookin2452,

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:15 pm
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bull shit conservative, parents like that are the reason there are gang shootings every day were i live, they expect the village to raise them. while there out doing drugs or sucking @#$%. this is more of an issue then anything on this this site, this is bad parenting, your probably one of those people that think we should change our constitution too.
tommy
in Flint Michigan Mad

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#11: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: tang, Location: America-Midwest

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:58 pm
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I used to have a really good friend that came from Flint. Fortunately, he moved away while he was young and became a very decent individual, and a good family man.
I personally traveled through some of Flint's neighborhoods within the past six months and all I can say to you Tommy is, 'good luck and keep up the good fight' Smile

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I could go on and on about the problems with kids today, but I'm no behavior analyst so I won't pretend to be. All I know, is that I honestly do MY best to raise my share of what will hopefully become tomorrow's respectable member's of the world's society.
More good people need to have children to counter the trend these days...that's my theory, and I think it's a good one.

Oh, and unless my previous and upcoming pictures are counted, I will not be partaking in this site any longer Sad

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Cheers,
tang

#12: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: dime2004,

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:04 pm
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yeah i can't believe a couple angry parents can do this to all of us. i mean, kids can find free porn all over the goddam internet. porn thats WAY more hardcore than anything on this site. i don't care much bout paying, but a lot of people do. we are gonna lose a lot of membership Sad

#13: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: tang, Location: America-Midwest

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:05 pm
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I have thought of something that *might be a problem, but I'm no lawyer either, heh.

Being that there are so many submissions on this site that are copyrighted to other owners, would that cause a problem if you were to charge a fee to view such items?

I know of at least three photos of mine that I have posted elsewhere on the internet over the past few years have been submitted on this site by someone other than myself or my wife.
It could be cool if every submission was original and you charged...very original too Smile

#14: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: white, Location: U.S.A.

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:42 am
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some real good points and some i don't want to dwell upon, i've been on this site for a very long time now, no i don't post pictures, i do enjoy the forums, and i comment on many of the postings, all i can say it was great while it lasted, ty for that pantyman, but i won't be paying to enjoy it . My opion, for what ever it's worth . 5.00 at 16000 members, not a small monthly amount.

#15: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: whowhat1,

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:37 am
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parents always have a way to blame others for thier own fuck up's, just like the parents who let thier child play violent games such as GTA (grand theft auto) knowing the violence that is in the game. then when thier child acts out the game and hurts somebody they state "oh the my child was playing the game and the game made my child hurt someone" nope sorry parents, the game didn't make the child hurt someone YOU made the child hurt someone by letting him and/or her play the game, it's like owning a firearm and having it loaded sitting on the coffee table knowing the child is gonna see it and think it's a toy,who's fault is it if the child picks it up and blows his/her head off? not the child's fault,it's the owner of the firearms fault.like previously stated, it's the parents responsibility to raise thier own kids not anyone else's.it's really funny to me how they let thier child surf the net knowing what type of sites are on the net & they use no programs that will block the content then they bitch and rage how thier child was introduced to what they found and saw.

honestly if subscriptions are going to be enforced then i will also have to leave...i got other bills that i have to pay.it was good while it lasted.

and a big

to the parents who like to blame other people for thier own screw up's

#16: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: john,

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:39 am
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Firstly, most of this site will remain free, eg, forums and so on. It will only be additional "premium" areas that would incur a fee. These would be the picture viewing area, chat and a couple of other features.

Any pictures belonging to other pay sites, once identified, will be removed from the albums.

If you contribute pics, not sure how many we would specifiy a month, you will get free access anyhow. We would need to be satisfied as to age though so were still thinking on how that can be achieved.

One of the positives of this is that members will be able to contribute more explicit pics, so a lot of pics that have been denied or deleted because they show explicit sexual stuff and exposed genitalia will be allowed, once we have protection in place to ensure that those viewing those images are over 18.

Another positive is chat, which we will look to bring back and a few other additional features, possibly some video, maybe live chat with models, etc, etc

To be honest, bad parenting or not, the fact is we run a responsible site and we dont really want to draw unwanted attention to ourselves for whatever reason.

As I said originaly, I know a lot of people simply wont pay (anyone making a calculation of 5 x 16000 is in fantasy land - I expect maybe 50 - 100 paying members and maybe 50 picture contributors) and the issue, for those people that have said they wont be coming back, remember the premium areas of the site are only part of the site. The rest is in the forums, the community, the links and so on and those areas should remain free. If you come here only to view the pictures, and want to stay part of the premium areas, and have some original pictures to contribute and it stays free for you.

I dont think everyone needs to get upset by this. For my part, I think it is a necessary, and sadly inevitable development

cheers

John

#17: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: pan_tyman, Location: Sussex UK

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:32 am
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Fenman wrote:

To Pantyman

Why is it important to unsubscribe? Just don't go on the site (you are obviously trying to attract attention to yourself)

What brought that on ?

I'm off, don't want to know

Not interested any more

This was meant to be fun, but you take it all so seriously

#18: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: guyinpanties,

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:02 pm
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With everyone that has uploaded images to your site while it is free are you going to delete all of the past images from people who do not pay? I have not uploaded many but even the ones I have uploaded I will want removed if I have to pay to see them, I am sure many others will want their pictures removed as well once they cannot access the photo's.

#19: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: dime2004,

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:39 pm
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How about making it a dollar or something, since you only want to do age check anyway?

#20: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: john,

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:24 pm
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To guyinpanties - yes, if people want their images removed, we will be happy to do so. All they will need to do is contact us with the image names and brief description and we'll take care of that

To dime2004 - We have agreed on a price of around $5 for reasons stated above - ie. being able to add some additional features that some members have asked for as well as for helping out on costs for server and bandwidth. Sponsors help pay for this site but thats only through resells on paying subscriptions. You can understand that it doesn't amount to much. The main costs we incur are through bandwidth charges, and the main things that eat that are multimedia sections such as pictures. we also expect chat to add to that as well as an aditional video feature.

I cant understand why so many people are against this. To date this site has been completely free. We have tried to make ends meet through sponsorship upsells but thats not paying for much. Surely, if you want to use all the premium option on this site, for the price of a couple of beers a month, it's not such a big thing??

Once again, if you contribute pics on a regular basis, theres nothing to get concerned about. This site was always intended to be community driven and those that drive it through contributions will keep all their privledges.

John

#21: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: whowhat1,

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:44 am
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john wrote:

Any pictures belonging to other pay sites, once identified, will be removed from the albums.

frankly that's gonna be alot of work and i'd say about 40-70% of those pics would get nuked.
plus if the forums would still remain free, what about the "hot panty sites" part of the forums? do we still get that?

#22: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: john,

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:37 am
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well, what we may also do is contact some of the sites direct and ask them they would like their pics removed or if they would like accreditation for the pics of some sort which may well send some traffic their way. It's early stages for all this and theres stilla lot of things we need to consider and cover.

#23: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: Brianne, Location: Glasgow, Scotland

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:42 pm
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So why not just have a subscriber section for those who want to post sexually explicit pics?

#24: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: Kingleo, Location: On a chair

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:00 pm
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The END is NIGH! I agree with whowhat1. I also have a feeling that the majority of the pic's on this site are from pay sites and the people(some) who claim to have the copyright of some pic's are telling porkies!!

#25: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: whowhat1,

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:20 pm
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if we are gonna do a age check...if it's possible why not just use a drivers license number?..honestly i would feel more safer to use my DL number then a credit card.any one who's any one if they are a hacker could possibly steal the credit card numbers and use it for thier personal gain.

#26: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: dime2004,

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:15 am
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well i got the copyright on all my pics!

#27: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: galaxybr8, Location: USA

Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:50 pm
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Funny thing, When "How do I unsubscribe ?" is put out there..Thers no answer to that one..Im not paying 5.00 for this..The comment "Just dont go there" isnt the case when there is a recurring charge every month to my credit card ...I want info how to unsubscribe if possible.....

Galaxybr8

#28: Re: Pantymagazine - Subscriptions Author: john,

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:39 am
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I take it you never read this post???

www.pantymagazine.com/...=4581.html

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